
Baha'i
Abrahamic
Q1 · Pre-Existence
What does “No pre-existence” mean?
The soul is created at conception/birth with no prior existence
The orthodox view in mainstream Islam, much of orthodox Christianity, and Judaism: each soul is created fresh at conception or birth. There was no soul before the body; the soul comes into being with the body. This is the position that most directly challenges all forms of pre-existence.
Examples across traditions
How this differs from neighboring positions

Abrahamic

Abrahamic
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
How this tradition expresses it
Humanity was chosen and predestined by God before the foundation of the world.
Why this supports “No Pre-Existence”
This passage affirms Christian election theology: believers were chosen 'before the foundation of the world' in God's eternal decree. This represents pre-existence in the decretal sense—souls exist in God's timeless foreknowledge and predestinating will—but not metaphysical pre-existence as independent substances prior to creation. This aligns with classical Christian teaching that distinguishes God's eternal knowledge from temporal causation.
The auditor flagged this claim as ambiguous or weakly matching. See the scholarly note below for context.
The claim's own rationale explicitly distinguishes between 'decretal pre-existence' (God's eternal foreknowledge) and 'metaphysical pre-existence' (souls as independent substances). The claim text itself does NOT support soul existence prior to creation—it supports God's timeless knowledge of future souls. This belongs under No Pre-Existence, since it denies that souls themselves pre-exist, only that they are pre-known. Created Pre-Existence would imply souls exist as created entities before the foundation of the world, which is not what this passage teaches.

Abrahamic

Abrahamic

Iranian
y to him, 'O Adam, up, die as if you never been, and pass as if you never created 15 would be.
How this tradition expresses it
The text suggests that Adam's current state of being in the world is a result of a specific temporal existence, and the instruction to 'die as if you never been' implies a desire to return to a state prior to this current embodiment.
Why this supports “No Pre-Existence”
This Mandaean curse-wish ('die as if you never been') is rhetorical, expressing that the wicked deserve oblivion rather than asserting their actual non-existence prior to life.
Nuance
The text frames the transition as a return to an original state or house.
The auditor flagged this claim as ambiguous or weakly matching. See the scholarly note below for context.
About wishing the wicked were never created, not the actual ontology of soul origins.

South Asian
Man devoid of realization, purposelessly in the world has arrived
How this tradition expresses it
The text suggests that human arrival in the world is characterized by a lack of realization and purposelessness, rather than a purposeful prior existence.
Why this supports “No Pre-Existence”
This Sikh verse describes the unenlightened soul's aimless arrival in this world. Sikhism actually teaches transmigration; this verse doesn't deny pre-existence.
The auditor flagged this claim as ambiguous or weakly matching. See the scholarly note below for context.
'Devoid of realization, purposelessly arrived' - aimlessness, not pre-existence denial.
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